Guys,
This weekend I will be hosting a brand NEW Natural Game Seminar featuring NEW CONTENT so come expecting many new ideas. I am looking forward to reconnecting with most of you again after my long absence. As the weather is getting warmer and girls are looking hotter, it is the perfect time to brush up on some more Natural Game before summer comes. This is my first seminar for a long while so I am really excited about it. This time as usual it will be full immersion and making deep level changes to the way you currently see game. The Seminar will be almost free ($10 to cover the room) and 2 hours long. We are going further down the rabbit hole...
Please email theedgemichael@gmail.com to confirm attendance
Date is Sunday 5th April 5- 7 pm
Topics:
* RE-CAP 10 Commandments of Natural Game
* Sexual platforms and Conveying sexual intent - Naturally
* Core Confidence Vs Situational Based Confidence
* Reacting Vs Unreacting
* Social Conditioning
* Getting into 'State'
* How to make a connection - Conversation examples
* Escalation - Committment - Justification
* The Ultimate/Final shit test (that even the best PUA’s don’t see coming)
* Q&A
* and MORE !
Location:
Room 402
Pearl Studios NYC
500 Eighth Avenue,
4th floor
btw- 35th-36th st
10018
(212) 904 1850
Just ask for the 'Natural Game Seminar' when you get there.
See you there! Leave your routines and pick up lines at home.
Michael
www.the-edge-nyc.com
Wednesday 1 April 2009
Thursday 12 March 2009
Bootcamps & New Website!
I am excited to launch my new website which just went LIVE. You can check it out here: www.the-edge-nyc.com
Some of you asked about the bootcamp which I am running so I have attached details. I only charge $750 for a 1 to 1 three day bootcamp which is 50% cheaper than all other group bootcamps out there. I charge this low price because my passion is helping others especially those who can't normally afford a bootcamp.
http://www.the-edge-nyc.com/schedule.html
Some of you asked about the bootcamp which I am running so I have attached details. I only charge $750 for a 1 to 1 three day bootcamp which is 50% cheaper than all other group bootcamps out there. I charge this low price because my passion is helping others especially those who can't normally afford a bootcamp.
http://www.the-edge-nyc.com/schedule.html
Wednesday 4 March 2009
Inside Out Social Dynamics Mastermind Group
Quick Update:
Tomorrow night (March 5th) I have been invited to speak at the Inside Out Social Dynamics Mastermind Group. The focus will be on Inner Game. It starts at 7PM.
Location:
CAP 21
18 W 18th Street
6th Floor [btwn 5th/6th Ave]
New York, NY 10011
212-807-0202
How to find us
"6th Floor, Studio #7"
See you there!
Tomorrow night (March 5th) I have been invited to speak at the Inside Out Social Dynamics Mastermind Group. The focus will be on Inner Game. It starts at 7PM.
Location:
CAP 21
18 W 18th Street
6th Floor [btwn 5th/6th Ave]
New York, NY 10011
212-807-0202
How to find us
"6th Floor, Studio #7"
See you there!
Wednesday 18 February 2009
Natural Game Seminar 4
-Due to overwhelming demand, I have decided to hold another natural game seminar this weekend. Last weekend 40 people showed up and you guys just blowed me away and there wasn't enough room for everyone to fit in.
(Note. this is a repeat of last weeks seminar for those who missed it and expressed interest)
Email to confirm attendance: theedgemichael@gmail.com
Date is Sun 22nd Feb 2009, 5:00 to 7:00pm.
Location:
Room 404
Pearl Studios NYC
500 Eighth Avenue,
4th floor
btw- 34th-35th st
10018
(212) 904 1850
Testimonials from the last seminar:
"Michael opened definitely some new insights to the Game. His basic approach: be natural, forget the lines, put your real self instead of the lines, improve yourself to be interesting without the lines. With I think is an approach which work for a longer time and solve your core problems. Written with many thanks to Michael by Aristokrat (Denis)"
"Hey Michael just wanted to say I had great time at your seminar. It taught me alot like how focus on my core self thx alot man. Through it was able to meet alot of great people afterwards." Delva
"Michael, Thank you for taking your time to describe your view of Natural game. It was very inspiring to hear it in person and see your charismatic vibe. Thanks again!" Ryan
"More than i hoped for, real informative" Jay Kim
"What you are doing is awesome and really nice for the community... I just wanted say thanks and hopefully we will see each other again one day and hang out.." Miles
Michael
~THE EDGE
(Note. this is a repeat of last weeks seminar for those who missed it and expressed interest)
Email to confirm attendance: theedgemichael@gmail.com
Date is Sun 22nd Feb 2009, 5:00 to 7:00pm.
Location:
Room 404
Pearl Studios NYC
500 Eighth Avenue,
4th floor
btw- 34th-35th st
10018
(212) 904 1850
Testimonials from the last seminar:
"Michael opened definitely some new insights to the Game. His basic approach: be natural, forget the lines, put your real self instead of the lines, improve yourself to be interesting without the lines. With I think is an approach which work for a longer time and solve your core problems. Written with many thanks to Michael by Aristokrat (Denis)"
"Hey Michael just wanted to say I had great time at your seminar. It taught me alot like how focus on my core self thx alot man. Through it was able to meet alot of great people afterwards." Delva
"Michael, Thank you for taking your time to describe your view of Natural game. It was very inspiring to hear it in person and see your charismatic vibe. Thanks again!" Ryan
"More than i hoped for, real informative" Jay Kim
"What you are doing is awesome and really nice for the community... I just wanted say thanks and hopefully we will see each other again one day and hang out.." Miles
Michael
~THE EDGE
Tuesday 10 February 2009
Natural Game Seminar 3 - NYC
"The ultimate goal of the Edge is that its members achieve theirs. The Edge exists so you can achieve your goal and help others achieve theirs."
This week I will be holding a Natural Game Seminar featuring some unexposed and talented PUA’s in New York. The Seminar will be FREE, 2 hours long and followed by optional night game. The basis will be my own natural style, so expect some new ideas :-D
Email to confirm attendance: theedgemichael@gmail.com
Date is Sun 15th Feb 2009, 5:00 to 7:00pm.
Location:
Room 402
Pearl Studios NYC
500 Eighth Avenue,
4th floor
btw- 34th-35th st
10018
(212) 904 1850
Just ask for the 'Natural Game Seminar'.
Rewind to Summer 2006, our first seminar in London. We were the first teachers of natural game operating out of London, UK.
Listening back to the seminar, it was far from perfect: we missed parts out, told our experiences in a rush and even left sentences unfinished. Yet the immediate feedback we got included:
"If you held bootcamps I'd pay for one"
"More charismatic than David DeAngelo"
"Look at the atmosphere you've created"
"I connected with you as soon as you told your Tube experience"
"A brilliant thing you did for the community; altruistic and truly genuine - which is the best one can hope for in life."
"Great seminar guys, + karma for you guys!"
"Who the Fuck are the Edge?" Sheriff, Mystery Method Instructor (typical lol)
Everyone who emailed me about this should now have received an invitation. If you would like to come please confirm this. If I forgot someone please email me.
Michael
~THE EDGE
This week I will be holding a Natural Game Seminar featuring some unexposed and talented PUA’s in New York. The Seminar will be FREE, 2 hours long and followed by optional night game. The basis will be my own natural style, so expect some new ideas :-D
Email to confirm attendance: theedgemichael@gmail.com
Date is Sun 15th Feb 2009, 5:00 to 7:00pm.
Location:
Room 402
Pearl Studios NYC
500 Eighth Avenue,
4th floor
btw- 34th-35th st
10018
(212) 904 1850
Just ask for the 'Natural Game Seminar'.
Rewind to Summer 2006, our first seminar in London. We were the first teachers of natural game operating out of London, UK.
Listening back to the seminar, it was far from perfect: we missed parts out, told our experiences in a rush and even left sentences unfinished. Yet the immediate feedback we got included:
"If you held bootcamps I'd pay for one"
"More charismatic than David DeAngelo"
"Look at the atmosphere you've created"
"I connected with you as soon as you told your Tube experience"
"A brilliant thing you did for the community; altruistic and truly genuine - which is the best one can hope for in life."
"Great seminar guys, + karma for you guys!"
"Who the Fuck are the Edge?" Sheriff, Mystery Method Instructor (typical lol)
Everyone who emailed me about this should now have received an invitation. If you would like to come please confirm this. If I forgot someone please email me.
Michael
~THE EDGE
Monday 9 February 2009
Natural Game FULLY EXPLAINED
Natural Game is the highest form of individual expression. Interacting with random strangers is our only chance to get real world, unadulterated feedback on who we REALLY are!
Natural Game with structure is NOT natural game. The moment anyone starts putting a structure around it makes it lost because there is no set way to take a man from A-Z in pick-up. Every guy in the seduction community can't be tarred with the same brush.
No.1 rule: No structure + No agenda
Remember if all male/female interactions emanate from this perspective, you can instantly disarm even the most intimidating beautiful woman.
Natural Game is the reality behind the appearance. It is about establishing an unspoken connection with her. A man to woman bond. heart to heart and beyond words is essential. You cannot do this with routines. Know that what exists within you is boundary less. It is being both in the moment, and on your path, willing to let her come with you along the way.
Becoming a Natural means we can say:
1. I follow my natural instinctual urges.
2. I have locked all underlying natural insinuations through firsthand experience.
3. I have supplanted deep inner natural presuppositions and behaviour.
4. I have a naturally flirtatious personality.
How is this done?
1. Understanding that the words and frame are massively less important than the sub communications you project.
2. Through ensuring that there is no difference between your ‘core’ persona and your ‘pickup’ persona.
3. By putting your real personality on the line.
The 3 LEVELS:
On a narrow definition there are broadly 3 levels of game: (credit to Sebastian)
Level 1: The ‘What do I say’ Level.
People at this stage worry about the specifics of what they are actually saying and want to know how to ‘talk up’ their game using routines or crutches. What they don’t realise is that it doesn’t matter what you say, women only respond to how you make them FEEL. This is the absolute amateur level.
Level 2: The Frame Level.
What has changed is how you frame your interactions with women, you become aware that the frame you adopt can change the meaning of what you say and so going forward you try using some. Therefore less time is spent paying attention to your own words but rather the meaning behind them.
Level 3: The Sub Communication Level.
You realise that the words and the frame are much less important than your sub communications which are basically driven by the state which you experience and project. You become aware that women do not respond to what you say but how you make them FEEL. You start throwing away everything you know, just say 'Hello' and celebrate everything that excites you about them. It means a complete devotion to something that is infinitely larger than yourself or anything around you. When you are at level 3, set’s just smashed open; you will be able to spark interest from wherever you are by just turning up to places, and all the other guys around you are scratching their heads wondering how the hell you’re doing it without any obvious strategy. They will then go to the forums and post about you that they are getting crap advice to just go ahead and say 'hello, my name is X' because they don't understand it yet.
Core Persona vs. Pick up Persona
If you’re running out of things to say, it is because you are trying to sub-consciously match up to some girl ‘you’ve just met 5 minutes ago’ standards, rather than impose your own. This is the basic problem of relying on routines to a girl, because she can tell on some level you feel the need to impress her. The when you run out of ‘material’, after a few minutes, the gap will be felt between your CORE persona and your PICK UP persona, and this isn’t attractive.
Hint: There is no difference between gaming and not gaming - sarging and not sarging. This is True Natural Game.
Despite PUA perception, women can never truly be fooled. They have something that men don't and never will -- a strong sense of intuition. The minute you disrespect that about a woman, you're finished.
Put your Real Personality on the line.
Natural Game can be developed by putting your real personality on the Line. This fortitude is something you build through exposing your real personality and allowing your real personality to be rejected, constantly - until you reach the "Indifference Threshold”. I advised back in the day to escalate as much as was necessary until all fear and shame was destroyed. Once you reach that indifference threshold, your sub communication will take care of everything.
There is a train of thought which goes like this:
Community Guy 1
This guy is the sort of guy who goes up to a female assistant in a clothes shop and says "I'm looking for a jacket” and she looks at him like he is a freak but she is polite anyway, but she talks to him in a way that makes him want to leave the shop. There are certainly plenty guys in the community who are at this stage.
Going up to some girl and saying "Hi, I'm X, how are you doing?" in a nervous and expecting a negative response way is not going to do anything other than reinforce the previous poor experiences. They need to get used to getting a *positive* reaction from girls, to develop core confidence. However, by putting the real personality on the line, over time, they can get used to getting positive experiences and build their subcommunications up to a point where they become:
Community Guy 2
You've been in the community for a while and are well calibrated and socially savvy. You have very few limiting beliefs and are generally walking through the world with ease. You are used to getting good reactions and sparking interest in any social situation. You go into a clothes shop and say "I'm looking for a jacket" and the shop assistant's reaction towards you is very friendly (because of your great calibration, vibe and energy) and she is glad you walked through that door and into her life.
The Routine versus Natural Game Debate:
In my best assessment, people who believe they fundamentally lack something and need to compensate with 'material' or ‘lines’ will not find understanding natural game easy at all. This is a skill set that requires a lot of pain and effort to learn. If you won’t go through the pain in the first place you will get nowhere.
Routines/Canned game generally operate under the presupposition that the girl has higher value than you, so you need to raise your value and lower hers in order to get the girl. Girls detect these pre-meditated approaches a mile away. Natural Game presupposes you have the higher value so trying to alter the value dynamic isn't really relevant.
The head shouldn’t be full of 'what technique shall I roll out next' rather than full of the experience of the current moment. In other words, there should be no calculation, no strategising, and no expression of something that has been pre-rehearsed. Being present and in the moment is key. Do it. No personality shells. No situational based confidence. No crutches.
It's also the mindset...
‘So they talk to me, I have to body rock so I don't look too interested’
‘So she feels like she knows me for longer, I should do some future projections’
‘I hear that girls like to talk about this topic, so that's what I'm going to do, even though I find it boring’
‘I have to disqualify myself and make her qualify herself to me’
Fuck all of this. This is not natural game.
Don’t waste any time to destroy any naturally flirtatious personality you may have in order to make superficial friendships with people doing the above.
Conclusion:
When guys first get into pick-up (as a result of the hype, I'm sure) they expect mind blowing results immediately and consistently - and few of these experiences are forthcoming. If you are using canned material to fill a gap, ask yourself why you are not filling it with something that actually matters to you. What is it exactly that you are afraid of expressing? Why can you not put your real personality on the line?
Students come into the game from months of internet-based study or practice only to find the routine models they have memorised are no match for the sheer diversity of situations arising in the real world. Their understanding of Game at this level shows a naive move with little foresight which doesn’t define longevity. Promises of the silver bullet, the pick-up artist who can get any girl remain elusively distant.
Good news, if you are willing to take a hit in skill and change in mind set, change is possible and you will enjoy spontaneous, unscripted interactions. Through experience, observation, honesty, and insight, natural habits (both verbal and non-verbal) can be built gradually over time. You may run into brick wall after brick wall before getting any real results but anyone with courage, conviction and drive to succeed will do it in no time!
I have shown you this is nice because you can just relax when you get girls without feeling you constantly have to 'perform'. Put the pick-up lines in a cage and don’t feed them. It is better to have natural game full of holes than not attempting any of this at all. Let the passion build naturally. DO NOT force it. Find your own rhythm. Create your own method and style based purely on in-field references. If you can so this you will be rockin’ the PU community next to none. The value you will start getting out of this way of life will be fucking quadrupling. Party times await. Never give up, never surrender. Nobody else will give you anything in this world.
Don’t be a Seminar Junkie / Keyboard Jockey
Michael
Natural Game with structure is NOT natural game. The moment anyone starts putting a structure around it makes it lost because there is no set way to take a man from A-Z in pick-up. Every guy in the seduction community can't be tarred with the same brush.
No.1 rule: No structure + No agenda
Remember if all male/female interactions emanate from this perspective, you can instantly disarm even the most intimidating beautiful woman.
Natural Game is the reality behind the appearance. It is about establishing an unspoken connection with her. A man to woman bond. heart to heart and beyond words is essential. You cannot do this with routines. Know that what exists within you is boundary less. It is being both in the moment, and on your path, willing to let her come with you along the way.
Becoming a Natural means we can say:
1. I follow my natural instinctual urges.
2. I have locked all underlying natural insinuations through firsthand experience.
3. I have supplanted deep inner natural presuppositions and behaviour.
4. I have a naturally flirtatious personality.
How is this done?
1. Understanding that the words and frame are massively less important than the sub communications you project.
2. Through ensuring that there is no difference between your ‘core’ persona and your ‘pickup’ persona.
3. By putting your real personality on the line.
The 3 LEVELS:
On a narrow definition there are broadly 3 levels of game: (credit to Sebastian)
Level 1: The ‘What do I say’ Level.
People at this stage worry about the specifics of what they are actually saying and want to know how to ‘talk up’ their game using routines or crutches. What they don’t realise is that it doesn’t matter what you say, women only respond to how you make them FEEL. This is the absolute amateur level.
Level 2: The Frame Level.
What has changed is how you frame your interactions with women, you become aware that the frame you adopt can change the meaning of what you say and so going forward you try using some. Therefore less time is spent paying attention to your own words but rather the meaning behind them.
Level 3: The Sub Communication Level.
You realise that the words and the frame are much less important than your sub communications which are basically driven by the state which you experience and project. You become aware that women do not respond to what you say but how you make them FEEL. You start throwing away everything you know, just say 'Hello' and celebrate everything that excites you about them. It means a complete devotion to something that is infinitely larger than yourself or anything around you. When you are at level 3, set’s just smashed open; you will be able to spark interest from wherever you are by just turning up to places, and all the other guys around you are scratching their heads wondering how the hell you’re doing it without any obvious strategy. They will then go to the forums and post about you that they are getting crap advice to just go ahead and say 'hello, my name is X' because they don't understand it yet.
Core Persona vs. Pick up Persona
If you’re running out of things to say, it is because you are trying to sub-consciously match up to some girl ‘you’ve just met 5 minutes ago’ standards, rather than impose your own. This is the basic problem of relying on routines to a girl, because she can tell on some level you feel the need to impress her. The when you run out of ‘material’, after a few minutes, the gap will be felt between your CORE persona and your PICK UP persona, and this isn’t attractive.
Hint: There is no difference between gaming and not gaming - sarging and not sarging. This is True Natural Game.
Despite PUA perception, women can never truly be fooled. They have something that men don't and never will -- a strong sense of intuition. The minute you disrespect that about a woman, you're finished.
Put your Real Personality on the line.
Natural Game can be developed by putting your real personality on the Line. This fortitude is something you build through exposing your real personality and allowing your real personality to be rejected, constantly - until you reach the "Indifference Threshold”. I advised back in the day to escalate as much as was necessary until all fear and shame was destroyed. Once you reach that indifference threshold, your sub communication will take care of everything.
There is a train of thought which goes like this:
Community Guy 1
This guy is the sort of guy who goes up to a female assistant in a clothes shop and says "I'm looking for a jacket” and she looks at him like he is a freak but she is polite anyway, but she talks to him in a way that makes him want to leave the shop. There are certainly plenty guys in the community who are at this stage.
Going up to some girl and saying "Hi, I'm X, how are you doing?" in a nervous and expecting a negative response way is not going to do anything other than reinforce the previous poor experiences. They need to get used to getting a *positive* reaction from girls, to develop core confidence. However, by putting the real personality on the line, over time, they can get used to getting positive experiences and build their subcommunications up to a point where they become:
Community Guy 2
You've been in the community for a while and are well calibrated and socially savvy. You have very few limiting beliefs and are generally walking through the world with ease. You are used to getting good reactions and sparking interest in any social situation. You go into a clothes shop and say "I'm looking for a jacket" and the shop assistant's reaction towards you is very friendly (because of your great calibration, vibe and energy) and she is glad you walked through that door and into her life.
The Routine versus Natural Game Debate:
In my best assessment, people who believe they fundamentally lack something and need to compensate with 'material' or ‘lines’ will not find understanding natural game easy at all. This is a skill set that requires a lot of pain and effort to learn. If you won’t go through the pain in the first place you will get nowhere.
Routines/Canned game generally operate under the presupposition that the girl has higher value than you, so you need to raise your value and lower hers in order to get the girl. Girls detect these pre-meditated approaches a mile away. Natural Game presupposes you have the higher value so trying to alter the value dynamic isn't really relevant.
The head shouldn’t be full of 'what technique shall I roll out next' rather than full of the experience of the current moment. In other words, there should be no calculation, no strategising, and no expression of something that has been pre-rehearsed. Being present and in the moment is key. Do it. No personality shells. No situational based confidence. No crutches.
It's also the mindset...
‘So they talk to me, I have to body rock so I don't look too interested’
‘So she feels like she knows me for longer, I should do some future projections’
‘I hear that girls like to talk about this topic, so that's what I'm going to do, even though I find it boring’
‘I have to disqualify myself and make her qualify herself to me’
Fuck all of this. This is not natural game.
Don’t waste any time to destroy any naturally flirtatious personality you may have in order to make superficial friendships with people doing the above.
Conclusion:
When guys first get into pick-up (as a result of the hype, I'm sure) they expect mind blowing results immediately and consistently - and few of these experiences are forthcoming. If you are using canned material to fill a gap, ask yourself why you are not filling it with something that actually matters to you. What is it exactly that you are afraid of expressing? Why can you not put your real personality on the line?
Students come into the game from months of internet-based study or practice only to find the routine models they have memorised are no match for the sheer diversity of situations arising in the real world. Their understanding of Game at this level shows a naive move with little foresight which doesn’t define longevity. Promises of the silver bullet, the pick-up artist who can get any girl remain elusively distant.
Good news, if you are willing to take a hit in skill and change in mind set, change is possible and you will enjoy spontaneous, unscripted interactions. Through experience, observation, honesty, and insight, natural habits (both verbal and non-verbal) can be built gradually over time. You may run into brick wall after brick wall before getting any real results but anyone with courage, conviction and drive to succeed will do it in no time!
I have shown you this is nice because you can just relax when you get girls without feeling you constantly have to 'perform'. Put the pick-up lines in a cage and don’t feed them. It is better to have natural game full of holes than not attempting any of this at all. Let the passion build naturally. DO NOT force it. Find your own rhythm. Create your own method and style based purely on in-field references. If you can so this you will be rockin’ the PU community next to none. The value you will start getting out of this way of life will be fucking quadrupling. Party times await. Never give up, never surrender. Nobody else will give you anything in this world.
Don’t be a Seminar Junkie / Keyboard Jockey
Michael
Monday 2 February 2009
DIRECT GAME VS INDIRECT GAME
Having a vast arsenal of skill sets is essential if you want to A) be able to meet and attract women in virtually any situation and B) be versatile enough to understand the limits and necessities of each overall interaction.
Although I advocate Direct and Natural Game, I've always said that Indirect Game also works. A well calibrated, socially savvy guy will know when it is appropriate to adopt either approach over the other style.
DIRECT OPENING
A definition of opening direct is that you express your interest immediately. It is the most honest with your objectives. Whether that interest is sexual or just interest is up to you.
Direct opening is more advanced than beginner because it demands a very strong frame and it comes from an alpha baseline. With Direct, you better have the confidence to back up what you are saying.
-Practicing this is the fastest way to increase your resistance to societal pressures.
-And it’s a very good filter in interacting with only women who are interested.
2 Types: EXPLICIT and IMPLICIT:
(You should use intuition to know which one to use and make your best assessment before every scenario)
- Explicit Direct – Intentions are fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied. It is super direct and super forward.
Example openers:
1. "Excuse me, I'm sorry to bother you, I saw you and I would be kicking myself all day if I didn’t come over and introduce myself. Hi, my name is Michael.”
The first statement is your intention (I want you), the next SOI is (why you want her). This gives her a logical reason for liking her. A justification.
2. “Wow, you are gorgeous/cute, hello!”
Explicit Direct Game is very hit or miss. There are less ways to ‘save face’ if she isn’t interested. After you go in there are only 2 reactions; a good one or a bad one, there is never an in between point.
- Implicit Direct – Intentions are implied or understood though not directly expressed.
This is the form where you your sub-communications are taking care of everything while verbally you are neutral. You are not planning on verbally 'All Out' hitting on her immediately for various reasons. Instead you use innuendos, metaphors and are still making it blatantly obvious that you like her.
James Bond is often implicit. Body language is key here. It has to come from the gut. 50 other men can pay the exact same comment to a girl and fail. It probably had a lot to do with the delivery not the content. This is because women do not respond to what you say to them, women respond to how you make them FEEL, which is the most important part.
Note: Neither explicit or implicit variations work if you are not FULLY committed to the interaction. You may try to guard yourself or hold back because it can feel like the best way to protect yourself from rejection but in reality, fully committing is the best way to save yourself from rejection. You have to go in head first/guns blazing. It’s all or nothing. Then you must remain congruent with the opener so she doesn’t feel uncomfortable. Don’t retract, remain in the moment and she will perk up and become warm and interactive before you even finish the line. She will usually be doing this as it dawns on her what’s happening. Look in to the depths of her eyes. If her reaction is positive then you have a green light.
At the same time, balance the approach off with being extremely well mannered and very warm and no woman will ever discount these as out of hand. She will secretly support you if you do this. Direct game works so well because no girl ever leaves the house thinking "I hope I don’t get swept off my feet today." She will be impressed with your courage.
INDIRECT OPENING
The classic definition of indirect is that you are hiding your true intentions. Indirect is a very non-committal opening.
There are various reasons for using this. It is useful when managing across unfamiliar cultures or when there might be a social violation which can potentially result in expulsion from the social circle. In another scenario it could be that you think you might be somehow be related by a mutual friend or something like that so you have to be careful. Note however that most guys start off with indirect because they are simply too scared to be direct.
There are other reasons such as when you can tell that certain hot girls are used to having guys hitting on them, and so by going direct she instantly turns off and it is better to kick back and be indirect about it.
Examples:
1. Asking for the time
2. Talking about the weather
Indirect game works, but it doesn’t have the passion and women love passion. In Indirect, you may cross wires with a girl i.e. it might not be obvious to her where things are going if you haven’t clearly spelled it out.
In Indirect game, a ‘failed’ set it is quite likely to result in the friend’s zone. In Direct game it will be more likely that there will be no further relationship at all.
More thoughts:
There is a train of thought which goes like this:
Some pick up artists speak of approaching using indirect openers and at the end of the night after sex the woman has said to him, "You wanted to do this right from the start didn't you? When I first saw you and you sat down near me I thought 'Why is he sitting near me and not in all those empty seats?' Then you asked me for the time, but I know you have the time in your cell phone? This was your plan right from the start wasn't it?" The point is that hot girls know exactly what you’re doing when you go in indirect. They have seen it time and time before, they know what you're up to anyway.
So there's something refreshing about being completely honest and telling a girl that you think she's cute.
Direct and indirect are both the same thing when you break them down. The same principles apply in both cases and achieve the same results and there are elements of both in each other. In indirect there is a point where you need to SOI, and in direct there is a period for comfort. When successful: Indirect Game and Direct Game lead to the same place obviously. Direct Game is high risk / high reward. Indirect is generally low risk / low reward.
The one important thing is that you are never lacking in self awareness and correction. Without this you are stuck ad infinitum, so keep plugging away at these! Practice makes perfect.
Final Note. Without the social/life experience to properly evaluate the information exposed to you, the answers you seek will not be found in the very things written here. They only mean anything if you have reference points to help connect the dots. If you don’t have those reference points and if you are not in the field discovering sides of your personality that you didn't know existed, and begin to understand how you react to REAL WORLD situations then this article will just be an article you won’t be able to relate them back to your game.
Michael
Although I advocate Direct and Natural Game, I've always said that Indirect Game also works. A well calibrated, socially savvy guy will know when it is appropriate to adopt either approach over the other style.
DIRECT OPENING
A definition of opening direct is that you express your interest immediately. It is the most honest with your objectives. Whether that interest is sexual or just interest is up to you.
Direct opening is more advanced than beginner because it demands a very strong frame and it comes from an alpha baseline. With Direct, you better have the confidence to back up what you are saying.
-Practicing this is the fastest way to increase your resistance to societal pressures.
-And it’s a very good filter in interacting with only women who are interested.
2 Types: EXPLICIT and IMPLICIT:
(You should use intuition to know which one to use and make your best assessment before every scenario)
- Explicit Direct – Intentions are fully and clearly expressed or demonstrated; leaving nothing merely implied. It is super direct and super forward.
Example openers:
1. "Excuse me, I'm sorry to bother you, I saw you and I would be kicking myself all day if I didn’t come over and introduce myself. Hi, my name is Michael.”
The first statement is your intention (I want you), the next SOI is (why you want her). This gives her a logical reason for liking her. A justification.
2. “Wow, you are gorgeous/cute, hello!”
Explicit Direct Game is very hit or miss. There are less ways to ‘save face’ if she isn’t interested. After you go in there are only 2 reactions; a good one or a bad one, there is never an in between point.
- Implicit Direct – Intentions are implied or understood though not directly expressed.
This is the form where you your sub-communications are taking care of everything while verbally you are neutral. You are not planning on verbally 'All Out' hitting on her immediately for various reasons. Instead you use innuendos, metaphors and are still making it blatantly obvious that you like her.
James Bond is often implicit. Body language is key here. It has to come from the gut. 50 other men can pay the exact same comment to a girl and fail. It probably had a lot to do with the delivery not the content. This is because women do not respond to what you say to them, women respond to how you make them FEEL, which is the most important part.
Note: Neither explicit or implicit variations work if you are not FULLY committed to the interaction. You may try to guard yourself or hold back because it can feel like the best way to protect yourself from rejection but in reality, fully committing is the best way to save yourself from rejection. You have to go in head first/guns blazing. It’s all or nothing. Then you must remain congruent with the opener so she doesn’t feel uncomfortable. Don’t retract, remain in the moment and she will perk up and become warm and interactive before you even finish the line. She will usually be doing this as it dawns on her what’s happening. Look in to the depths of her eyes. If her reaction is positive then you have a green light.
At the same time, balance the approach off with being extremely well mannered and very warm and no woman will ever discount these as out of hand. She will secretly support you if you do this. Direct game works so well because no girl ever leaves the house thinking "I hope I don’t get swept off my feet today." She will be impressed with your courage.
INDIRECT OPENING
The classic definition of indirect is that you are hiding your true intentions. Indirect is a very non-committal opening.
There are various reasons for using this. It is useful when managing across unfamiliar cultures or when there might be a social violation which can potentially result in expulsion from the social circle. In another scenario it could be that you think you might be somehow be related by a mutual friend or something like that so you have to be careful. Note however that most guys start off with indirect because they are simply too scared to be direct.
There are other reasons such as when you can tell that certain hot girls are used to having guys hitting on them, and so by going direct she instantly turns off and it is better to kick back and be indirect about it.
Examples:
1. Asking for the time
2. Talking about the weather
Indirect game works, but it doesn’t have the passion and women love passion. In Indirect, you may cross wires with a girl i.e. it might not be obvious to her where things are going if you haven’t clearly spelled it out.
In Indirect game, a ‘failed’ set it is quite likely to result in the friend’s zone. In Direct game it will be more likely that there will be no further relationship at all.
More thoughts:
There is a train of thought which goes like this:
Some pick up artists speak of approaching using indirect openers and at the end of the night after sex the woman has said to him, "You wanted to do this right from the start didn't you? When I first saw you and you sat down near me I thought 'Why is he sitting near me and not in all those empty seats?' Then you asked me for the time, but I know you have the time in your cell phone? This was your plan right from the start wasn't it?" The point is that hot girls know exactly what you’re doing when you go in indirect. They have seen it time and time before, they know what you're up to anyway.
So there's something refreshing about being completely honest and telling a girl that you think she's cute.
Direct and indirect are both the same thing when you break them down. The same principles apply in both cases and achieve the same results and there are elements of both in each other. In indirect there is a point where you need to SOI, and in direct there is a period for comfort. When successful: Indirect Game and Direct Game lead to the same place obviously. Direct Game is high risk / high reward. Indirect is generally low risk / low reward.
The one important thing is that you are never lacking in self awareness and correction. Without this you are stuck ad infinitum, so keep plugging away at these! Practice makes perfect.
Final Note. Without the social/life experience to properly evaluate the information exposed to you, the answers you seek will not be found in the very things written here. They only mean anything if you have reference points to help connect the dots. If you don’t have those reference points and if you are not in the field discovering sides of your personality that you didn't know existed, and begin to understand how you react to REAL WORLD situations then this article will just be an article you won’t be able to relate them back to your game.
Michael
Monday 5 January 2009
Natural Game DHV’s: Demonstrating Higher Value
I heard a great value story before about Al Pacino that also gives me a sense of what is possible in pick-up. The Director is telling Al Pacino how he wants him to deliver the first two pages of the script to convey his character and the plot. Al Pacino says "We don’t need to do these first two pages. I can say all that in the first second just by the way I stand."
Attraction is mostly sub communicated through things like eye contact, body language and only a small amount of speech. Women do not respond to what you say, women respond to how you make them FEEL. This is sub communication on an ingrained level and is truly what generates all the attraction needed in a direct pick up. When you have these, No flamboyant routines, no playing hard to get and no social proof is necessary. Calibrate them into your own unique personality and you will be sending teenage girls into rapture.
Value isn’t a zero sum concept. Value is infinite; there is no reason to save or hide your value. It’s not an exhaustible resource, it won’t run out. I can generate value out of nothing in seconds because I understand what value is:
True Natural Game DHV’s:
• Great state regardless of the social feedback of other people.
• You don't supplicate and give your power away.
• Being able to fill or relax in awkward silences.
• Unreactive
• Vibe-sensitive. (Feeling subtle shifts in the interaction and never letting it get too negative, quiet or low-energy).
• Being the source of energy and good emotions.
• No active searching for indicators of interest (IOI’s) or fishing for compliments.
• Making people who are trying to 1-up feel like they are failing. Even cock blocks and alpha males are helping you and are on your side.
• Subtly screening girls you interact with.
• No qualifying, validation or approval seeking.
• Being present and in the moment.
• Not drawing emotion or state from the environment
• Feeling of self respect and high self worth.
• Perpetual and influential good feeling
• Assertive and unhesitant
• Well calibrated and socially savvy to all people not just the one you are talking to.
• Help people rise to their aspirations.
• Break rapport. shows non-neediness, standards and self contentment
• Talking about topics in detail without actually talking about any personal achievements within it.
• Body language well dialled and honed
• Not relying on alcohol. Visibly makes you sloppy and clouds your judgement.
The above examples are of how often natural guys without 'flashy looking game' will get laid. They are potent.
Michael – NYC
Attraction is mostly sub communicated through things like eye contact, body language and only a small amount of speech. Women do not respond to what you say, women respond to how you make them FEEL. This is sub communication on an ingrained level and is truly what generates all the attraction needed in a direct pick up. When you have these, No flamboyant routines, no playing hard to get and no social proof is necessary. Calibrate them into your own unique personality and you will be sending teenage girls into rapture.
Value isn’t a zero sum concept. Value is infinite; there is no reason to save or hide your value. It’s not an exhaustible resource, it won’t run out. I can generate value out of nothing in seconds because I understand what value is:
True Natural Game DHV’s:
• Great state regardless of the social feedback of other people.
• You don't supplicate and give your power away.
• Being able to fill or relax in awkward silences.
• Unreactive
• Vibe-sensitive. (Feeling subtle shifts in the interaction and never letting it get too negative, quiet or low-energy).
• Being the source of energy and good emotions.
• No active searching for indicators of interest (IOI’s) or fishing for compliments.
• Making people who are trying to 1-up feel like they are failing. Even cock blocks and alpha males are helping you and are on your side.
• Subtly screening girls you interact with.
• No qualifying, validation or approval seeking.
• Being present and in the moment.
• Not drawing emotion or state from the environment
• Feeling of self respect and high self worth.
• Perpetual and influential good feeling
• Assertive and unhesitant
• Well calibrated and socially savvy to all people not just the one you are talking to.
• Help people rise to their aspirations.
• Break rapport. shows non-neediness, standards and self contentment
• Talking about topics in detail without actually talking about any personal achievements within it.
• Body language well dialled and honed
• Not relying on alcohol. Visibly makes you sloppy and clouds your judgement.
The above examples are of how often natural guys without 'flashy looking game' will get laid. They are potent.
Michael – NYC
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